Ok so I'm always in the habit of sewing on my sew foam but have talked to and seen some trimmers that glue all there sew foam on there material. Well I have tried gluing with some good results but would like to hear from everybody on there method. What works best for you and your thoughts about the pros and cons of both.
I use tac glue on most projects unless its leather. I spray a light coat and it dissolves over time so it doesnt cause any creases in the material after regular use.
I was trained to glue the material on however recently I have been sewing on.With it sewn on it does seem to feel nicer.I stil glue if its a quick, cheap job.I was using some fabric last week which needed glueing as it moved so much when trying to sew the foam on.
How does everyone get on with sewing listing tubes onto sewn down foamed material, when the tube is attached across the center of a panel? I've found the top and bottom move around a lot when sewing it on.
Yep perimeter stitch then stitch in futes or patterns i also back every thing with calico.
Just a habit i think it looks nicer than relying on the ceracks backing of the foam
I just glue in really rare situations. Mostly i perimeter stich my material. When I glue i use a very low athesive and low temperature resistant glue in a spray can (I call it "stamp-glue" because its just stick and dont glue ;) )
What is "calico"? Weaved cotton LIKE #? The horizontal thread goes over one vertical and then under a vertical and always so on?
I always sew mine. If glued it can cause some unwanted wrinkles. Especially if you are using a foam glue like Du-bois 301 foam glue, or misty foam glue. These adhesives do not harden so they are good for gluing foam to foam without getting a hard glue line that can be felt under a cover. This type of glue can be separated with heat (At least the stuff I have used). If you use this for sew foam then it can possibly separate and re-stick causing some nasty lumps.
Think of panels you cover, you float your material on some parts, and glue solid on others. In some areas the material needs to move independent from the sub straight and other times that would be a hindrance. In reality gluing sew-foam would be fine for some parts but not others. I just sew mine to lessen the confusion.
We have all seen the factory stuff that is foam backed (like foam back headlining) That is not actually glued it's flame bonded. A process where a large machine has a flame bar. The material is passed under the bar and the foam on top (or vice versa) then it is sandwiched between rollers immediately after. The flame slightly melts the foam permanently adhering to the material. This method can still cause wrinkles depending on the flexibility of the foam. flame bonding
I usually lightly glue with a kind of dry spray to hold everything in place while i perimeter sew and add listing strips etc. the light dry spray lets go pretty quickly tho, so you don't want to leave it sitting round to long before sewing.
I also use calico or a light canvas for backing fluted etc.
I did some headrests the other day with perimeter sewn 3mm scrim and ended up having problems with the foam rucking/creasing up and causing lumps in the headrest.
Ok maybe its a down under thing 3 types of flutes top sewin.
Back sewen wich means the stitching is not seen.
And back sewen and filled where the vinyl is stithced to the backing material then foam is inserted into the pocket that is created using two strips of alloy then the strips are removed to leave the foam filling the pocket.
I will try and find some examples and maybe a translation for you on terminology.
Keith, when sewing headrests to foam, ALWAYS leave the front and back loose. The headrests have such a sharp radius that the foam can bunch up around the top. If you leave at least one end free, you can reach up and pull the foam down to get that wrinkle smoothed out.
Thanks for that, I'll try it neat time.
Always trying to improve my work.
Normally I would use 6mm or 10mm scrim on the center section of a seat and 3mm on the sides of the faces however they never look as smooth or tight as the pics I see others post on instagram should I move up to using 6mm all over?
i use 12mm most of the time with 12mm on side bolsters or 6mm depending on the foam its going over .... you can also get 16 scrim from segal trimming for fatter flutes
I perimeter stitch but on occasion with very large pleats I found glue helps. Just went through this with some large boat cushions that are 4ft. x 7 ft. First attempt i only did perimeter stitch and had lots of waves so the next one I glued and it turned out nice and smooth. This is a funny topic to me cause some say you MUST NEVER glue and others say you MUST glue. I believe it all depends on project.
Didn't think to mention this earlier. For those that have trouble when perimeter sewing long or awkward parts. Use your stapler's pin side to hold everything in place, then just pull the pins as your sewing.
I tend to glue most pieces (specifically on seats) as it seems to make the whole process a little easier with the same quality end product. This is especially true when sewing pleats or diamonds or whatever in my eyes. However, on backrest covers, I just spray the top of foam and not backside of material, that way it doesn't really "stick" but it makes it easier to sew yet doesn't wrinkle as easily when rolled onto the seat. Also when putting on the seat covers, even on cushions, I steam the backside of the foam really well just before installing. It releases the glue for a minutes so you don't get stubborn wrinkles. Every project is different though.